My reply explains enough. At this point I am aware I am dealing with a Sociopath and my reply reflects that. But I was not aware of what she had already done.
Email sent on the 24/10/2021
“Hi Mum, as I explained I am struggling with this situation. I have not nor will I respond with malice as this is a business arrangement that needs to be resolved in that fashion. I am sorry if it has come across that way. The arrangements were made between Dad and me and as you say there were many of them, from your response it does not sound like you have been made aware of all of them.
- Forklift, at no stage was there any agreement for me to repair the forklift, it was never ever discussed. It was done because Dad cannot do it and it was just one of many things done by a son for his farther. I don’t understand how you would ever expect it to be done by me solely when we both own it together and used it together. I don’t understand how you would expect me to pay for repairs when I am not using it, it not like I was charging you for lease of my share. Again Dad it not capable of servicing the forklift and as such it will be costly for repairs without proper servicing. I am happy to sell the forklift, it was always kept in good working order by myself as you have said and it was left to you in that way. In the current market we should get $8000 and we will do quite well out of it. If it is not in the condition it was left with you in it will need repairs to get it that way. As I cannot do the repairs I will have to get them done, I don’t think it is unreasonable to expect you to cover this cost as Dad was the only one using it. Let me know what you want to do.
- Gurnie, the agreement on 2/6/2015 was made with Name Removed at the kitchen table and was only relating to the extracting plant and it was for a 50% share of the extracting plant meaning we own the plant 50/50 like I said. The gernie was never damaged in the fire so I am not sure why you are saying it was part of the insurance money. It too was in good working order when it was left with you so it is not unreasonable to expect it to be serviced and kept that way when I never asked for lease of my share. Again another thing a son has been doing for his parents out of respect for what they have done for him. As you said I purchased it and it took me a considerable amount of time to find the deal I did, that type of gernie was always worth $4000-$5000 and still are and I am only asking the bottom end of market value. My offer to buy me out is still $2000. If you only value it at $1600 I am happy to buy your share for $800 I do need a gernie at home. Let me know what you want to do.
- Extraction line, as stated earlier I was paid for 50% of insurance money and retained 50% share of the extraction plant. I don’t understand how you can say I was paid out. We both received exactly haft of insurance money after repair cost as agreed by you, me and Name removed. You only owned haft of the plant as per our agreement. Not only is it legal to receive 100% of insurance money for something you only 50% own, it would be immoral to do to your son. There must have been some confusion between you and Dad. I hope now you can understand why I was upset when I had to ask for the insurance money several times before Dad said he would pay it to me. I was entitled to it. As I said to both you and Dad separately this extraction plant was an asset that would only increase in value. Mum, if you can remember you said Dad should not get it at his age and when I told you of our agreement, that I would pay Dad exactly what he pays for it as it will only increase in value, that was the only reason you agreed to let him buy it. This is the only agreement we have for the extracting plant and both of you were told individually. This was an asset for my future and was everything I was working for. I said I wanted it replaced at Dads cost as he was responsible for the fire. I don’t think you fully understand how seeing everything I was working for burnt to the ground has affected me. After I had already put that fire out once and I called Dad twice to put it out again, doing more than any reasonable person could be expected to do to prevent it. I didn’t say anything because I knew Dad felt bad enough for falling asleep and you asked me not to for insurance reasons. I agreed to fix it when Dad insisted and he said he would take the risk and replace it if we couldn’t repair it. I was never told we would need to inform any other buyer it was burnt for health and safety reasons. I never once asked for the countless days Dan and myself spent to clean and repair this machine, despite server depression, just something a son does for his parents. Again the machine was left to you in good working order, I have not asked for lease of my share. It is not unreasonable to expect you to pay for repairs especially without the proper maintenance I was doing and no experienced operators. Yes I took responsibility for all of Dads extraction to the point where he refused to even learn how to operate the plant so he didn’t have to do it. This was happening even in to old extraction plant and I supplied the labour then. Another thing a son has done for his farther out of respect. I am writing what I have done for Dad as you don’t seem to know Mum. I still believe it is easily worth $50,000 as replacement would cost around 3 times that and my offer to pay me out is still $25,000. If we can’t agree we will have to sell it but to be fair if you would like to make an offer now and I am unable to reach that offer at market I will sell it to you. I don’t wish to inconvenience you any more than is necessary to get fair market value for my assets. I don’t think you have the right to restrict my access to the property under our current agreement. Elson Apairies PTY LTD is a company with business assets on your premises and is allowed access for many reasons. Until all assets are either paid for, soled or removed access is permissible. Out of respect I will always follow your rules but just no it is unreasonable nor needed.
- I am glad you have not disagreed on the price I have put on the hot room. We had a really good working arrangement that befitted both of us and pricing rental on your shed, extraction room, hot room, and yard would be the same as me putting a price on lease of equipment, installation of extracting plant, fabrication, repairs and maintenance to the shed and the hours I spent helping Dad with truck repairs, truck maintenance, loader repairs, cleaning his part of the shed and just general help around his yard. Like you said it is just what family does for each other and to claim that you have some moral high ground here is just incorrect, and is counterproductive to resolving the separation of our shared assets. I am sure when you leave these things out, sort out the confusion between you and Dad about our agreements, you will see that I have been more than fair with the value I have put on things. This is just a simple matter of the value of our shared assets and neither one of us have to justify the support we have given one another because it has always been a two way street.
- Box lifter, as you say it was paid with insurance money. Again you are confused here. I paid for haft when it was originally purchased, that’s one haft. It was paid for again with insurance money that was rightfully haft mine, then we split the left over insurance money 50/50. That’s another haft I have paid from my share of insurance money. Meaning I have paid for one whole box loader. Plus I have fabricated it twice at my expense all due to Dad falling asleep and burning it. I hope now you understand why I was not unreasonable when I said I owed it, especially when you consider the cost of fabrication far out ways the cost of the parts purchased.
- Box return rollers, again as you say paid for with insurance money. Same as above.
- Pallet jack happy to collect. Although it was the only one working and I do think Dad will need it. I hope that you can see now that saying I need written permission to enter the property is not warranted over a discussion about separating our shared assets. You will always be my parents and I will always love you. I am very happy with the person I am and that would not have been possible without both of you. I think both of us would be very regretful if this was to come between us or our family.
- Pallet racking, so it is agreed it was paid for by me. ( No lease charged ) Again you have forgotten that both me and Dan installed it and you have only paid for Dan, haft the labour. It doesn’t change my offer. If Dad agreed to pay for haft the labour it is proof that it was built for him to use as well, haft each. Seeing that he has had complete use of it for far longer than me and will continue to have complete use of it if he buys it, combined with the fact that I have charge under market value, under purchase price and my labour was not charged, I don’t think I am being unreasonable. Again when you are aware of all the facts of Dad and my arrangements this is just a simple matter of the value of our shared assets. I am doing you a favour at $1000 and I should not be made to feel guilty or threated with not living in harmony with my family. This has nothing to do with anyone but Dad and myself and at your request, you now Mum. No one has anything to gain by involving our family and it will only cause heart ache to everyone as it has to us. This is not something I want for my family and I am sure not something a mother and farther would want to do to their kids. Especially when most of this is just a miscommunication between you and Dad.
- IBC’s, I am glad you have agreed. I hope you no longer need written permission for me to come to my parents place but if you do I am happy to do so.
- Wax moulds, $75. Happy you can use them.
- 500lt honey vat, I think it would be perfect for his bottling machine but I can remove.
- 1800lt milk vat (my mistake I listed it as 9000lt) Again there is confusion between you and Dad or his memory is incorrect. I owned 4 of these vats. 2 Dad and I were hafts in and they were sold with our old extracting plant. One was sold to Carl and the remaining one is still mine. These sell for $1000 all day and I think you will agree I have made him an excellent offer only asking $500.
- Pallets, again Mum you and Dad have got your wires crossed. There are 2 different types of pallets. Honey pallets and hive pallets. Yes you have paid $3500 for honey pallets. But you have not paid for the hive pallets as they are on the invoice for the Avant.
- Avant and hive pallets, these were sold to Carl as part of my hives and truck sale. Dad made an agreement with Carl to purchase them and I agreed to let Dad pay me directly. Again Mum you and Dad really need to communicate about these things as it was not over any health issues. It was another favour by both Carl and myself to Dad. Yes he had to pay $40,000 then and the rest in the next financial year. I will attached the invoice as to clarify what was owing and when. I invoiced you $52800 on the 23-1-2020 and you paid me $40000 on the 23/6/2020 five months later. Yes I said you didn’t need to pay me till I needed the money but I hope you can see the two way street I was talking about earlier. The next financial year from when you were invoiced was the 1/7/2020 and the date I contacted you saying I needed the money for my home was 17/11/2020. It’s not quite 6 months but it is very close and it was very overdue. I don’t doubt that this was just a simple mistake you have made Mum and everyone makes them. I hope you can now understand why I was disappointed when I asked you for the money and you said you no longer wanted the pallets nearly a year later, that you were trying to pay your home loan off in 2 years and you didn’t know if you could afford to pay your bill and you needed to talk to Dad. I am very happy we have sorted this out because it upset me to no end when you said that as it was at a time of tremendous stress that I was not coping with and I thought I was going to lose my house. You later realised you needed the hive pallets as what use is an Avant without the pallets to put your hives on. I was wrong to say I was doing you a $15000 favour for 6 months as it was only $12800 that was overdue. However that $12800 favour was for 9 months and 24 days. And before that it was a $40000 favour for 5 months. Mum this is what sons do to support their parents and to show their gratitude, never at any time would I have believed I would have to justify the gratitude I have shown you throughout my entire life. Never have I asked for something that I didn’t deserve, never have I asked for something that wasn’t mine, never have I lied about what was mine. This is why I was upset when Dad said it was all his, and when I asked his only justification for that was “you’re out of the game and it is all mine now”. I know my reaction was not normal for me, this is the PTSD from some of Dads actions I have tried to talk about. As you have agreed in your response we do have assets to split and Dad saying they were his is why I said what I did. I agree we have always been fair to each other but it was my trust that was broken and that is what caused the reaction I had. I cannot tell you how pleased I am to have some reason for him thinking that he owned it. I am not dead, I am still alive and I have paid for these assets. I am glad I have sorted out the confusion and hopefully this whole thing can just go down in history as a big misunderstanding. You are $7200 in credit. Let me know what you want to do with the rest of the equipment.
I have never told you how bad this fire and the way it was handled has affected me personally and I don’t wish to hurt you so I won’t. But it has been discussed at great lengths with both my psychiatrist and my psychologist, at the time it happened and all the way up till now. Their advice was the same then as it is now. The best thing for my mental health is to stop these lies and to just tell the truth. I have always thought of you and Dad first and listened to your advice and I allowed you to handle it your way at great cost to me personally. I wish nothing more than to resolve this so I can move on with my life. I love you and Dad with all I have but that fire and come between us and that is my greatest regret. I wish nothing more than to put the whole thing behind me and to forget about it forever. That is why I have made you an offer below market value to just pay me out so I can be done with it forever. I am sure when you consider all the points in this email you will agree it is more than fair. I want to move forwards with nothing more than the love and respect we have always had for one another. With this in mind I am no longer offering for you to pay me off. I just want to forget about this whole thing.
I do think the best thing for both of us is for Dad to buy me out of everything listed by the books as I first said. The price for everything listed is $37,625. Less the credit $7200 is $30,425. Plus GST is TOTAL $33,467.50. I do think you should consider this offer as it would put an end to everything. The extraction plant alone could be worth well over $70,000 at market and this is a very fair offer.“
Avant Invoice
